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Gender and Sex by Nelde Gender and Sex by Nelde
An attempt to explain and visualize gender and sex.
Based on charts created by Monica Helms, which can be found here: [link]

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:iconmsdarkvanilla:
Critique by MsDarkVanilla Feb 17, 2011, 12:02:23 AM
To start off, this piece delivers exactly what it promises, a useful info-graphic on the topic of gender in it's many forms. The artist Nelde shows a great working knowledge of info-graphics, and has all the hallmarks of a talented graphics designer.

It opens with a clear expression of intent, which is an asset for the piece as it's goal is to inform. That it's aim is clear is very important for an info-graphic, as it leaves little room for confusion on the part of the viewer.

It then goes on to give a text and graphical key to it's central concept. This key is made prominent through use of a proportionality larger scale as compared to it's the later portion. This helps center the viewer on the key, and also allows for greater detail in the graphical portion of the key. Over all it feels clean, precise, and well thought out.

The second portion of the info-graphic, the examples, is an important addition to the piece. It helps those unfamiliar with the concepts being discussed form a frame of reference. This is important in facilitating the piece's goal of informing the viewer. The examples are an excellent addition that only further strengthens the piece.

Over all it is a clever and clear expression of a fairly nuanced idea, and it does a good job addressing the nuances of the topic. It offers up it's information with clarity with out being overbearing or unhelpfully unspecific. I would also like to commend Nelde's clever use of color coding to tie the larger, labeled key to the smaller, unlabeled examples

I can safely say this info-graphic has succeed at it's purpose to inform; and I fail to see any way in which it could be adjusted that would not diminish it's effectiveness.

I strongly recommend this as a good starting point for anyone interested in the topic of gender and society.
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i think this is very usefull and should be used ass a test for people to test them selfs
you should think of making possibly a questionare or online test
maybe this is a test but you could maby posibly make a possibly make it more in depth
may i sugest you put a blank template of it with just the target disign
you could posibly make it for other things as well
like music , movies, art taste, culture, or silly stuf like which meme you are most like or which doctor who you are most like
or cat types possibly
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:iconduckycupcakes:
DuckyCupcakes Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What about crona?! (Genderless)
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:iconjavagirl98:
javagirl98 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014
I think that would be in the neither/undifined section
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Cellas Featured By Owner May 18, 2013
I am a little afraid of making the test... He(it) would just miss that I am maybe lesbian without knowing it.
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay... gender expression...not entirely sure what that means...Gender identity, Genderqueer and ?. Body presentation...Female. :( Sexual attraction is neither. Romantic attraction is all.
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Gender expression= androgynous and ?
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xxcandy333xx Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012
so if your pansexual you should just light that chart up like a Christmas tree? No?
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:iconvyanni-krace-ace:
Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well no...You'd light up the 'sexual attraction' ring like a Christmas tree.
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:iconvyanni-krace-ace:
Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If there was a romantic attraction ring I'd light that one up like a Christmas tree and leave the sexual attraction ring with a 'neither'. (Panromantic Ace.)
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KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Looks confusing D: How would you do the lines?
I know how to answer these though...
1. androgynous - since I don't believe in gender roles of any kind, so I do either as I please.
2. female - since it's my physical gender.
3. female - self explanatory.
4. mostly male - Straight for the most part but it may possibly extend to other women as well.

This chart is rather cute though ~
I could imagine to add more confusion detail, you could add another circle for romantic attraction, since it's not always the same as sexual attraction in the case of asexuals.
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Shoujo-Slytherin Featured By Owner May 21, 2012  Student Writer
I will do this... when I get home. ^^;
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YvannaIrie Featured By Owner May 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
[link] here's mine! :D

I think this is an absolutely brilliant concept and I hope this catches wind and becomes A Thing outside of internet, too. It's very simple and very understandable but offers enough complexity that anyone can fill it. It just MAKES SENSE.

Also, the visual is very pleasing. It's uncluttered, it's simple -- I just really like everything about this meme!

Thank you for making something so awesome :D
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks a lot for your comment. :)
And you're welcome. ;)
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sh-artistry Featured By Owner May 11, 2012   Digital Artist
Decided to give this a try: [link]

Thank you very much for this nice communication tool! ^_^
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thank you. :D
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MusicIsAnAddiction Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Did it! ^-^ [link]
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Stealthy-licious Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Student Writer
This is awesome! I did a version where I circled the things that I was, can I post that?
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Professional General Artist
Sure. As long as you credit me. :)
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HeyWorldImGay Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2011  Student Photographer
Can I use this to explain to my class what I am? (I am a cross-dressing male born girl in a boy's body- it would be easier to use this than to explain all that.) I'll give you credit, and even post it in dA with a link to here if you want!
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2011  Professional General Artist
Of course you can. :)
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:iconheyworldimgay:
HeyWorldImGay Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2011  Student Photographer
Thank you~:heart: I'll post it up here sometime...
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MrSabazius Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011
This is fantastic! The examples helped me to sort out the different levels of sex/gender/identity in my mind. Now all we need to do is come up with names for every possible combination :P
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you :)
Well, I'll leave the name thing to others. :D
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bellamuesette Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Monica Helms stated at the end of her presentation that someone challenged the linear format of her charts by suggesting that they should be circular instead. Were you that student? :juggle:

This chart is interesting, but I find this circular format a little bit hard to follow. I found myself having to look up and down and back just to remember what the color coding was. It was slightly dizzying. Overall, it's an innovative way to represent sex and gender identity in a new way.

I actually have several friends who will eventually go through the process of female to male transition. It is interesting to look into their perspective. One of them is attracted to males, the other is bisexual, and the other said that fluid sexuality describes him best. I remember at one point I thought that part of the desire to change sex is was being attracted to to same gender as their biological sex. I learned through being associated with them that it may not be the case at all. I learned that gender identity and sexual attraction aren't linked.
I feel like I've become a little bit wiser.
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner May 30, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks :)
Haha, no, I wasn't that student, I found that article in the Internet. ^^
Yeah, the subject is really fascinating, as it challenges the traditional views of gender and sex.
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Linzi11 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2011
Thanks for trying to help people understand but maybe for the matters of the heart it don't need to be easy for love as a whole is not always easy to put into words
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Feline-Jaye Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2011
At first I thought it was a sorta, spin the wheel thing. You know? But the highlighting idea is good too.

I quite like it (and I get the feeling I'm gonna like a lot of your work).


So here's a question (if you're up for it): what if the whole circle (all four of them) is highlighted?
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2011  Professional General Artist
I have no idea what that would mean... It would also be a bit contradictary, don't you think?

Hehe, about you going to like my work: Well, atm I'm not really making any new stuff that concerns gender or sexuality... But if you have an idea I'm open for suggestions. :)
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Feline-Jaye Featured By Owner May 18, 2011
Um... like this [link] ! Where you spin them around (I can't explain :P)

A *little* contradictory maybe, heh ^^;

I.... have no clue :) I'm leave you a message if I think of something.
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MsDarkVanilla Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Aside from my critique I just wanted to say great work. I've seen many professional, contracted info-graphics that where not executed even half as well as this.

Also as a strong supporter of gender understanding I think you did a brilliant job addressing the topic, great work ^__^
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Woebin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2011
This looks nice and all, and probably says something good, but it's confusing as hell and probably needs an explanation to make sense to a lot of people (like the topmost comment conversation with SocraticPrince as I'm typing this). A graph that needs additional explaining isn't usually a very good graph.

Really nice aesthetically, though.
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Hm, thanks for your feedback.
I don't really think that it's confusing... it might take some time to get into it. I showed it to some people and after some careful observation, they all got it.
It's possible though that it might be helpful if you're not completely new on the subject...
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Woebin Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2011
I've had gender identity issues of my own for as long as I can recall, and I took gender studies at university. I am not completely new on the subject.

Anyway, after taking a second look at it again now I think I get it. Still not very intuitive, though.
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Hm, maybe that sounded a little too... bigheaded?
I see that people here are having a problem understanding it. But I don't know why that is so, whether it's because it's on the Internet, or because the people I showed it to in real life are more used to interpreting graphs or because of something else.
If you have an idea on how to make the whole thing clearer, I'm open for suggestions.
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anibunny Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really like this. Having seen other charts that try to visualize/display the gender and sex of people, I think this is the best one yet as it seems pretty flexible and open.

And I appreciate the "?" and "Undefined" on gender expression and identity.
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Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you :)
Well, sometimes, there simply are no words (yet) other than "?" that would fit.
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Malrai Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Are we allowed to fill it out?
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011  Professional General Artist
Sure. Feel free! :D
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xxcandy333xx Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011
Im confused.
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011  Professional General Artist
That's not necessarily a bad thing... ;)
It is kinda confusing.
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CrayolaCupcake Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2011   Photographer
sounds cool..but im sorry i dont quite understand how it works >.< ?
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011  Professional General Artist
It's a chart that depicts sex and gender (and sexual attraction) as four levels. On each of this level a person would be able to set a point or area where they are.
Does this help?
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CrayolaCupcake Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011   Photographer
oh yash it does, thankyou
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:iconnelde:
Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011  Professional General Artist
You're welcome :)
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CrayolaCupcake Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011   Photographer
^-^
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VividGrim Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2011  Student Digital Artist
This is pretty good. Though for gender expression I think 'man' and 'woman' should be replaced by 'masculine' and 'feminine'... and by the way, 'genderqueer' is usually used to refer to gender identity, not gender expression. So I think gender expression would be more of a three-pronged circle, if that makes any sense. And I think you should replace 'neutral' in gender identity with 'genderqueer'. Neutral isn't something I hear at all, really, and genderqueer is a broad term for people who aren't cisgendered. And a final thing: sexual attraction only accounts for the gender and sexual binary.
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Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you for your feedback.
I found what you said was helpful and true, so I made some changes to the chart.
Since a "three-pronged circle" for gender identity would mess up the balance, I just replaced genderqueer with an "?". Maybe someone else will have an idea that would fit in there.

I didn't quite understand what you meant with your final thing, though.
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VividGrim Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Well, the circle for sexual attraction only accounts for attractions to male or females, implying that there are only males and females to be attracted to... I'm not sure how you would fix that, though.
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Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011  Professional General Artist
Oh, yes, I see what you mean... Hm... difficult.
Well, sexual attraction is only a bonus on his chart, as I already made two charts regarding sexual attraction :)
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Viskamiro Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2011
How do you decide if there's variation on #3 ?
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Nelde Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2011  Professional General Artist
To be honest, I can't really make these decisions for other people.
I took the examples from the link in the description.
But they're just examples. Everybody would have to decide for themselves whether there's a variation or not.
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